This year’s Austin Film Festival featured a surprising thriller as part of its 2019 lineup; that movie is “A Patient Man.” During the festival, we were able to speak to a group of cast and crew for the film (pictured above, from L-R): producer Jason Moyer, producer Katherine Von Till, composer Rob Houle, writer/director Kevin Ward, producer Harrison Reynolds and actor Jonathan Mangum. This interview has been edited for clarity.

How did this story come about? What inspired you to write it?
Kevin: So, I live in LA, and I commute from the Valley to the Fox Lot, which is a nightmare. Iâve done it for a long time. I wanted to write something that I could shoot, that was attainable at least on my budget level. So I was thinking about â I rode the train for a bit, and the train is weird, and people are weird on the train, especially in LA. I always wondered, âShould I talk to this person? He looks like a relatively normal human, but he might be insane.â You know? So it was that sort of âStrangers on a Trainâ idea, where itâs like, if you go down a rabbit hole of meeting a new person on a train â like I met somebody here who Iâm pretty sure was insane. He looked like a very normal person, with like, a blazer, you know what I mean? And then he asked me if I wanted to take mushrooms. This was yesterday!
Well, as they say, âKeep Austin weird.â
Kevin: Yeah. So I just liked the idea of two people meeting randomly on a train and what that would look like. And what if they liked each other? What if they became friends? And then what if one had an ulterior motive, and it was not a nice one? It just sort of came out of that idea and sort of reverse engineering that story a little bit.
How did the producers come in?
Katherine: Well, I am in a âBachelorâ and âBacheloretteâ viewing group with Kevinâs wife, for about a decade. Iâm very type-A, very bossy, which she knew. My cat had just died and she said, âDo you need a distraction? I think these boys need some help.â And I was like, âNo.â And then Kevin called me and sent me the script, and I was like, âThis is really â this is cool. I donât think people are going to be able to pull it off.â But he said it was okay if we didnât finish, and I donât do anything without finishing it, so I was like, âChallenge accepted!â
Harrison: And I signed on initially to help shoot the trailer that we used to raise money for the whole thing. We were doing a crowdfunding thing, and we shot a trailer over two weeks â er, two weekends. And from there it kind of took off. I shot the movie as well, and produced as well.
Kevin: Iâve known Jonathan for a really long time. I went to school in Orlando, Florida. [looks at Jonathan] You went to school in Orlando, right? Did I know you?
Jonathan: Yeah, we did.
Kevin: And so weâve known each other for a really long time, and Jonathan is a comedian and an improv person. I know lots of improv â my wife did improv for a really long time, so I knew that community a bit. His wife helped me cast the movie because sheâs a casting director. We were looking to cast the role, and she was like, âWhat about Jonathan? He just read it.â And it had never dawned on me because heâs a comedian. It turned out, it was perfect. Like, thereâs a weirdness to Jonathan. [all laugh] You know what I mean? Heâs very funny but, you know, weird.
Jonathan: Plus the script, when I read it, it was really good. Like, âWhoa, this is great.â You read so many horrible scripts, my god. And then you read a good one and youâre like, âHuh? What? Is this real? Is this happening? How do I get to do it?â
Kevin: And Iâve known Rob forever. We were in bands together in college.
Rob: Yeah, a lot of punk bands.
Kevin: He taught me how to play the guitar, mostly because I was terrible.
Rob: Yeah, so he let me score his film.
Kevin: And itâs amazing. He did an incredible job.
Katherine: Jason, our other producer â
Kevin: Yeah, I went to college with him as well. So itâs all friends.
Itâs awesome when you have a friend group talented enough for that.
Kevin: Totally! In Orlando, we were in bands and we were in the theater program at UCF, so I know so many actors. We have a huge friend group that moved from Orlando, Florida, to LA. Itâs like all the people I liked in Orlando now live in LA. I have Thanksgiving at my house every year and itâs like 40 people deep of Florida people. Itâs amazing. Itâs a very singular Los Angeles experience, I think, to have that many. And theyâre all actors or directors or writers or producers, and theyâre all in the business.
I think the music fits the film really well, so what was your process in composing it?
Rob: The interesting thing about it is that I ended up moving to northern Wisconsin, so when I started getting these reels from him, it was -20 degrees out, middle of winter, gray out. I can only stay inside.
Kevin: Itâs a real âThe Shiningâ situation.
Rob: It is! Very much like an âAll work and no play makes Rob a dull boy.â And I was in the basement, and itâs not like a finished basement; itâs like cinder blocks. And Iâm working in this dark, damp, cold space on this film, and I think it just overlays so neatly in a sunny, deranged LA personâs mind, you know? And also with the process, I kind of wanted to start â because the character, Tom, we start the movie kind of liking him and feeling for him, so I wanted to give a little tenderness and sensitivity to the music. And as you start to see him go down into his madness, I wanted to just kind of change it more and more. Every time you hear a theme again, itâs a little bit darker and a little darker â until at the end itâs just like, âBam.â
Kevin: We spent a lot of time on the music. I had a lot of specific ideas.
Rob: Yeah. It was one of those things where he would give me temp music, so I would try, but I always like to put my own swing on it. If what I âswangâ on it worked for him, heâd be like, âGoodâ or âNo.â
Kevin: It was amazing though. You could turn around notes wicked fast.
Katherine: Well he was alone in the woods of Wisconsin!
Kevin: Yeah, but still, he had to rewrite melodies, you know what I mean? I couldnât have â it was crazy. I would give you oddly specific notes, like, âThis has got to hit here; this has got to do that. Whatever youâre doing here, donât do that.â
Rob: Thatâs one of those things thatâs great about having known each other for so long: I can decipher your notes. I know what heâs saying. Like, âHeâll like this.â
Thereâs a lot of internalized, emotional acting you have to do as the character of Tom. How did your background help you with that?
Jonathan: When youâre doing comedy, itâs all right in the face, like joke-y, joke-y, joke-y. It was a breath of fresh air to get to do something that wasnât the same thing. It felt easy in a way, like, âOh, Iâm getting to do something else. Thank god!â I never wouldâve gotten a chance. Even when I get cast in these drama shows, Iâm like, âHey, I booked a part!â And then you realize, no, youâre kind of the comedic part on âChicago Medâ or whatever it is. Theyâre dramas, but youâre not. Youâre still joke-y man. So this was like, âOh, I get to just completely be a freak, and I loved it.â

How did your editing background help you with writing and directing?
Kevin: Well, I think I know how to direct because Iâm an editor. I think I learned, not just the typical aspect, but thereâs something about like, I watch dailies for a living. You know what I mean? Iâm watching what directors are doing, and Iâm also not always watching great TV. So Iâm learning what not to do. I think I knew on the fly when I had a scene. I knew when it was time to move on; we did not linger on stuff. I knew, âWeâre going to be in this for this; letâs move on.â I think that it made it more efficient, but it also â I mean, Harrison and I watched movies forever, like once a week for a long time. So that collaboration was incredibly helpful because he and I knew what the film was going to look like in advance.
We really had a firm idea about how we were going to shoot it; the visual references we were very in-tune with. We had a shorthand of âThis is the time to stack close-ups,â you know. We were just so in the pocket. And because I was cutting myself, I knew I could take shortcuts; that if I were directing something for someone else to cut, I wouldnât be able to do. Like, an editor watches all the dailies and can see clearly what the director is looking for, what a director wants. You can see a performance get sharpened as you go later in the dailies, or sometimes they kind of fuck it up, like they over-note it or something. But you can tell the sweet spot. Because I was cutting it, I was able to just do a lot of stuff I wouldnât have done if I were handing it over to someone.
You guys got to screen the film last night with an audience here. What was that like for everyone?
Rob: It was wonderful. It was the first time Iâd actually ever seen the whole film. I was just working with reels, so that was really cool for me.
Kevin: And you got to hear the mix, too.
Harrison: The audience had a ton of energy last night, I thought. They were gasping when we wanted them to gasp; they were laughing when we wanted them to laugh. And because obviously nobody knew what was coming up, I watched the audience for a couple of key moments and like, when the car crash happens, I watched some dude jump literally two feet in the air. It was amazing. Itâs one of those moments when youâre like, âYes, this actually is working.â And kind of the let-down of the end, when they’re just like, âWait, heâs getting away! Heâs getting away!â Itâs great.
Katherine: And we have a lot of light moments, and there was a lot of laughter.
Kevin: All the jokes totally landed.
Katherine: They all landed! I was so pleased.
Kevin: There is a fair amount of comedy in it, just because I canât help myself.
Jonathan: Itâs all totally character-based, though â nothing was said that those characters wouldnât say.
Kevin: Yeah, itâs not joke-y. Itâs just, like, absurd.
Katherine: Yeah, like, Amirâs character is annoying. So you laugh because heâs annoying. He plays Rami.
Harrison: And the audience asked really insightful questions.
Kevin: They did.
Harrison: There was stuff that we hadnât necessarily been asked before â stuff weâd thought about, but like, âOh my god, you guys really got into it.â I really enjoyed that.
Katherine: Me too.
Kevin: It was fun. Most of them stayed for the Q&A, and it was like half an hour, so it was a long Q&A.
Katherine: Yeah, there was actually one more question that they never even got to. It was great.
Thereâs a lot of movement in the film, with the train, cycling and the car crash you mentioned. What were the technical difficulties of that?
Kevin: They were vast. [all laugh] Everything we shot was in LA, except for the actual train, which we shot in Sacramento, because they let us. We never couldâve shot on the train in LA. I forget what the quote was, but it was insane.
Harrison: It was like $1,100 an hour.
Kevin: An hour. It just wasnât possible. So we contacted the transit people in Sacramento, and I feel like they had â the more I think about it, I honestly think this was a new person, who had just gotten the public relations job for the SacRT or whatever. She was like, âGreat, you want to film a movie? Cool!â And I was like, âThatâs great. How much you want for it?â And she was like, âI think all you need is a permit. Here are the safety people.â All we had to do was pay for a $100 film permit to shoot for 5 days on a working train. And then we had to up our insurance to cover railroad insurance, and she gave us like 30 free ride tickets every day, because we had a bunch of extras. We were budgeting all-day ride tickets for like 30, 40 people. [Jason walks in, 14:20] So that was amazing.
And it was a working train, so we had to have extras block seats off so that we didnât get random people in the shot. We had to travel only east-west so that we could keep the sun out of the window that would float on us. It was like a five-stop stretch. We had basecamp in an RV at one stop, and we would ride the train one direction, and then put a bunch of people at the opposite end of the train because theyâre mirror images of each other. So we would have to go to the other end of the train when it rode this way to get the rest of the scene. And we found that if we didnât get the scene on one trip there and back, we were just boned.
Harrison: Because thereâs a bunch of different cars â styles of cars. So thereâs like a wood-paneled one, thereâs a more modern molded plastic.
Kevin: And even the ones that looked alike, there were like vague differences that just wouldnât match.
Harrison: Like different seat layouts and that kind of stuff.
Kevin: We really just had to get it in one back-and-forth. I mean, it was five stops, so it was kind of a long time. Each drive took us an hour. We would have to shoot a scene in an hour â every scene.
Harrison: Fortunately these guys were so put together with all the lines and the motions. He knew what he wanted, and we had scouted prior, so that was just key in preparation all around.
Jonathan: And you thought, at the time, that we were going to have to loop all the train stuff. We ended up not having to do that, but that wouldâve been a nightmare, just cause of the noise and the sound. Every 15 seconds it was like, âThe next stopâŚâ right in the middle of a take.
Kevin: Right, and we had to be moving because we couldnât be stopped. We had to get the outside. So weâd stop and just look at each other, you know? And then it would go again. We would still roll through stops. We were just rolling the camera through it. And then he and Tate â we havenât talked about Tate Ellington, but Tate is great. They could just pick up a conversation and we would like, âJust do it again until we stop. Just say the line again and again and again.â And then move on. And we shot two cameras on the train so we were able to get cross-coverage, which was enormously helpful. I donât know; I mean, I think it looks pretty good. Thereâs really only so many ways you can shoot a train car. And I think we got âem all. [all laugh]
Harrison: What was also super fun is these guys get on and off a lot. So people are jumping off at a stop and literally sprinting down the side of the train to hop back on because if we left them behind â
Kevin: That was pretty funny. Youâd do the lines, and as we got closer to a stop, youâd skip the end where he gets off. Like Tate would pop up and get off, then he would run back and then he would meet us back. And when we were rolling again heâd just sit down and do the lines again.
Jonathan: But youâd have to let the doors close. So youâd like get off, doors close, âAaahhh!â [all laugh]
Kevin: You could see them hitting the button so many times.
Katherine: Like âI donât want to be left behind!â
Harrison: Well especially at night, in these far-end places.
Kevin: We did leave you behind once.
Jonathan: You had to, one time.
Kevin: Because thereâs that shot in the beginning, of you going. Itâs like the opening title sequence. That was downtown Sac at night, which is real sketch. You had to just go to a stop and wait, and we had to get on. That whole process took like an hour. And we had the lady with us that we had to walk downtown with â the old lady in the beginning whoâs the friendly one.
Katherine: Sheilah Morrison.
Kevin: Yeah, Sheilah Morrison. Sheâs a trooper but sheâs an old lady. Weâre just walking through sketchy-ass downtown Sacramento â itâs a lovely town â
Katherine: Thank you for the train.
Kevin: Yes, thank you for the train. I mean, there were enormous technical challenges with that, just getting extras on and off, and we had a security guard at night.
Harrison: Oh yeah, wasnât he like a 14-year-old kid? He was, like, smaller than all of us.
Kevin: Yeah, he was totally worthless.
Harrison: Weâd be like, âHey go take care of that guy.â And heâd be like, âAre you guys sure? I think heâll leave us alone.â
Kevin: There was fear in his eyes. Anyway, we shot Jonathan on a bike a lot in LA, so a lot of car rigs. From every conceivable angle â we pushed him, we pulled him, we did wide shots. Some of my favorite stuff in the movie is the bike stuff. Shooting in downtown LA over that bridge in Korea Town, thatâs like right over the LA River â that shotâs great, man. I remember when we shot thatâŚ
Harrison: Yeah, I lost my mind.
Kevin: You lost your mind. It was amazing, man.
Harrison: I think we played it back like, 15 times. Like, âLook at it again!â
Kevin: Oh, because remember we had to do it again because we noticed a camera wiggle. And we were like, âFuck!â But we did, we got it again. It was great. I donât know; all that stuff is a blast. We have so many random war stories about like â
Harrison: I rode in that little bike basket.
Katherine: Oh my god.
Harrison: All that Knight Riders stuff, I was in the middle of it. Iâm actually painted out in a couple of frames. Iâm in a little tiny bike basket with a helmet on, terrified. And this guy thatâs pulling me is huffing and puffing, because I guess I ate too much that day.
Kevin: Well, heâs pulling someone like twice his size on a bicycle with a camera rig. I mean, yeah. But you were so pissed, because it was dangerous and you were afraid for your life.
Harrison: Oh yeah. You see the cars zipping by in the scene.
Kevin: Thereâs a wide shot in the movie where all the Knight Riders go by; I mean, I can see the roto lines, but really I donât think anyone can. And thereâs just this guy who was like [huffing] but you canât see what heâs pulling because Iâve rotoâd it out. [to Harrison] I honestly thought you were never going to speak to me again. But also, to be fair, that was your idea. You looked at the Amazon cart we ordered. You approved that cart.
Harrison: Well maybe we shouldâve tested it before that night.
Kevin: Also, two PAs built it. I remember we had this giant Amazon box and we were going to shoot this bike thing. We were like, âHey can you guys put this thing together?â So you rode on the PAsâ craftsmanship.
Harrison: And these guys had sourced all the Knight Riders. Thatâs an actual â they drink a bunch of beer and get high â
Kevin: Theyâre a bike club, a bike group.
Harrison: They ride through downtown LA.
Jonathan: On a Tuesday night, at one in the morning.
Harrison: Yeah, exactly. So, in downtown LA, we shot kind of in their little encampment. And then I donât know how many people were in that scene, like maybe 20 or so, were like,âYeah, Iâll go do it.â I think generally itâs like 40 or 60 people.
Kevin: Yeah, there was still like another 40 people off to the side that did not sign waivers, that didnât want to be in it. Thereâs just a guy ripping a bong right off to the side. [to Jonathan] Like, in your close-up!
Harrison: And we made them reset, obviously, over and over. And one guy, I guess, drank too much or got too high, and heâs like running off and puking.
Kevin: Because theyâre riding bikes! I mean, I think he like, shotgunned a beer then rode a bike, and then he came back and threw up. One guy ate it really hard. We had all these guys on bikes, and we stayed on just a handful of roads in downtown LA. So we would have to stop everyone like, âOkay, weâre turning around.â We had to reset the camera. And these two guys wanted to race. And he was racing, and he just ate shit. I donât think he hurt himself badly, but he definitely road rashed himself. He was a bloody mess, but he was like âNo, Iâm fine.â
Harrison: All that said, those guys were super troopers. They were so down for the cause, so friendly.
Kevin: They were amazing! They were great. You should follow them on Instagram, cause itâs crazy. Chief Lunes is the Instagram? Theyâre hardcore bikers â
Katherine: Bicyclists. Hardcore bicyclists.
Kevin: Yeah, Iâm going to go with bicyclists. They are like, in traffic, mad at the cars. Really mad at the cars.
Jonathan: But itâs also like âBattlestar Galactica.â Itâs like ragtag pieces of broken â theyâre not all like pro bikers.
Kevin: Yeah itâs a weird vibe.
Rob: Kind of a âMad Maxâ feel?
Kevin: Yeah, it does have a âMad Maxâ feel!
Katherine: We also had trouble in Sacramento; we had to hire extras â well, background â sight unseen. We saw their head shots.
Kevin: You had to fire a lady.
Katherine: We had to fire a lady because she was crazy. I had to ask her not to come back, and she was very angry about it. But she was nuts, and we canât have that. But I think â I was just looking â we had 87 actors total, including all of our background. And thatâs just our background that SAG-AFTRA requires us to cover the first 10 in any scene…We had just a ton of actors. And remember, these people are working for deferred payment. So if we donât make our money back, theyâre never going to see a dollar. They just want to make a film, and they just want to collaborate, and they just want to make something different and fun.
Kevin: In Sacramento they were great. There was a lady who was a lawyer in San Francisco. She drove her Jaguar down to ride the train with us for two days. She was super nice; she brought a book. They all brought clothes and changed in the RV that Harrison and I were sleeping in.
Harrison: We werenât sleeping while they were changing, to be clear.
Katherine: And we got lucky with some stuff. One woman â I contacted her based on her headshot and she was like, âWell Iâm actually an actor with disabilities. Iâm in a wheelchair. Is that okay for you?â
Kevin: Oh yeah, we featured the hell out of her!
Katherine: Yeah, I was like, âThatâs a great idea.â So she was able to get that part because she â
Kevin: Sheâs the one in the scene where the guy is trying to steal the wallet; sheâs the one in the wheelchair.
Katherine: And sheâs actually an actor with disabilities, in a wheelchair.
Harrison: We had at least three of those background actors who have since moved to LA and started a career there.
Kevin: And theyâre very active on social media.
Katherine: Yeah, they follow us, and like all of our stuff.
Kevin: One of them came to the screening in LA.
Katherine: We got very lucky.
Kevin: In every conceivable way. This thing couldâve gone south a million different ways. No permits in LA at any given time is just a recipe for disaster.
Harrison: Well the cops showed up one day without permits. But they were actually searching for a prowler that was casing some house or something like that. [to Jonathan] That was the night right after you left, when we were shooting at the bar and all that stuff.
Kevin: You had to go cause you had a gig. You were flying out.
Harrison: I was sitting in the middle of the street with a huge light behind me on an apple box, and the cops drove by â didnât say a word.
Kevin: It was like three or four in the morning; we were going as fast as we can, cause you had to catch a flight at like five or something. And so I ended up being the body double for you…You had to leave, and so I put your suit jacket on. Iâm in the movie like three different times.
Katherine: [to Jonathan] And your brother manages that bar, right? So we were able to get that bar location. We just got so many people who were willing to give us stuff.
Kevin: Well you have to. Thereâs no way to make a movie on a microbudget without freebies. Itâs a hard thing to do, and itâs a lot of peopleâs dedication and a lot of peopleâs time. We couldnât be more grateful; it really is incredible, the sort of crazy team that did this. It was a massive team. In the offices, we would have like 25 extras in the office. We shot four days there. We got that office for, what was it? $400 a day or something? Itâs a great location; everything is glass. Itâs a beautiful place.
Katherine: And it had that bullpen section down below, and what was really great is that it had a whole kitchen and dining area behind it. Our caterer was able to set up and we had a green room, essentially, for all the extras to wait and eat.
Kevin: Thatâs a weird experience: When you walk into a room full of extras, and youâre like, âIâm just getting coffee.â But thereâs a room full of people just actively staring at you. And youâre just like, âHey guys.â
Katherine: Also in features we call them âbackground,â Kevin. âExtrasâ in commercials.
Kevin: âExtrasâ in commercials and âbackgroundâ in narrative? Thatâs crazy. Yâall crazy.
Harrison: We also had an awesome, awesome volunteer group. [to Kevin] Itâs what, your cousin-in-law?
Kevin: Heâs my wifeâs cousin.
Katherine: Thatâs your cousin-in-law.
Kevin: Anyway, heâs interested in film I guess, and my father-in-law â he lives in Chicago â he flew him in to help out with the movie. He shot 25 days and he worked on all of it, and he was amazing. He was a PA and a grip and just a general worker of things. Heâd never worked on a movie set. He drove the car for the rig â little things like that; you canât make a movie without that.
Harrison: Our costume designer designed this whole wardrobe book.
Jonathan: She couldnât be there for the shoots, so she planned it all out ahead of time: Hereâs what you wear for each scene. It was kept in the back of my trunk.
Katherine: She had like, photos and everything so he could keep track.
Kevin: We couldnât have made the movie without that. Every scene number, there was so many â weâd be shooting the bike and youâd have to keep track of which day was going to be which to match the interiors. I donât know how many times we were in the back of your trunk at a book, like, âIs that the right tie? Is this the tie from the picture?â We didnât have, really, an AD. [to Katherine] You were a second AD for background.
Katherine: Well, all the principals too. I did all the union paperwork. So I would show up to set every day and get everybody to sign everything and get all the paperwork done.
Kevin: But I didnât have an AD; I didnât have a scriptee. Everything was just inside my brain, you know what I mean? Itâs weird in there.
Katherine: Oh we know. [laughs]
Harrison: Our production designer, Ashley, helped a lot with everything, in terms of continuity and how the office changes throughout. She kept fantastic track of what was where, especially since we shot over two weekends in the office. We didnât shoot 14 consecutive days.
Katherine: We had to redress everything, and put everything back.
Kevin: Yeah, cause we shot a weekend in the office, went to Sacramento for five days, and then went back to that office the next weekend.
Katherine: And that office is a working business. We had to take all of their things down and put all of our own stuff up.
Harrison: Twice. [all laugh] Unless we couldnât return to a location, we saved all of our inserts for the very end of the shoot. We had two interim days essentially. And that was also such a timesaver, to be honest. To go back, where itâs Kevin and I, and a hand model and Ashley and shoot those inserts.
I donât know how much you all knew going into reading the screenplay, so what was it like for you to read it and slowly realize whatâs going to happen?
Katherine: I remember thinking, âOhhhh. Kevin isnât the guy I thought he was.â I just was not expecting this kind of movie. Because, again, everyone we know are comedians and in the comedy world. So I just kind of assumed this was going to be a comedy. And then I was reading and I was like, âOh, this is sweet. This poor man; itâs going to a drama of him recovering, blah blah blah.â And then I was like, âOh my god!â
Jason: That point in the script is probably why I decided to sign on. Because youâre reading it and youâre like, âAw, this is the redemption story of a guy who lost his wife,â and then youâre like, âOh, but itâs not.â And thatâs what made it interesting for me, was seeing that story play out.
Katherine: A lot of times when you see a thriller or suspense film, you know from the get-go that itâs that kind of movie. And this one, you donât.
Jonathan: Yeah, when youâre reading that, before you get to that point, itâs like, âOh, please donât let this beâŚâ Youâre hoping thereâs something and then itâs like, âOh yes!â
Katherine: âItâs not a Lifetime movie!â No, theyâre great. Theyâre fantastic. Please hire me. [all laugh]
Harrison: Wouldnât that be funny if thatâs how you got a gig on a Lifetime movie?
Whatâs been your favorite thing about being here at Austin Film Festival with âA Patient Manâ?
Jason: I think itâs really awesome that we got to hang out not in production and just kind of celebrate the work that we did together, and being able to see it and share it with people. Itâs been really amazing for me because Iâm really proud, and I think everybody here should be really proud of the work that we did, and being able to be together and celebrate it is awesome.
Harrison: Itâs such a well-put-together festival. Itâs been fantastic; the volunteers are amazing. Everyone weâve spoken to from the day we found out we were going to get into the festival until literally right now have just been such solid people â very welcoming, but also on top of things, and have foresight to handle any challenges we might come against.
Katherine: Chaperoning us through the process a little bit. Itâs great.
Kevin: Showing the movie to people, you know what I mean? You do this in such a bubble, and to see it with an audience â
Katherine: This was my first time seeing it with an audience, and it was just incredible. You think something is good â you hope itâs good â but youâre too close to it. To see other people like it is just so gratifying.
Thank you all for taking the time to speak with us!
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Originally hailing from Pennsylvania, Jackie has called Austin home since choosing to attend the University of Texas, where she graduated with a degree in multimedia journalism. She loves spending time with her dogs, writing about pop culture in all its forms and spending time with friends â eating, drinking and doing trivia.

